Hammer and Pickle
11:47 Thu Sep 25
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Bad as he may be - and poor he is - he'll be remembered with fondness if Farage ever gets into number 10.
In the nightmare scenario where he takes the UK out of the EU, Farage will pitch you not only into an economic crisis but a constitutional one, as he will be de facto forcing the Monarch to take a political stand in direct conflict with its government and a large body of MPs. Either that or he will find excuses not to realise his main vote winning policy and be outed as the all-fart-and-no-smell I actually suspect he really is.
Anyway, at least Cameron is not the total embarrassment his main political rival, Farage, quite clearly is, and this may turn out to be Cameron's saving grace.
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stewie griffin
11:50 Thu Sep 25
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Weird one, this.
I'd probably have used a different word to 'purred', but I'm delighted that the Queen was pleased with the referendum result.
In the grand scheme of things, so fucking what?
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Brussels Sprout
12:14 Thu Sep 25
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It was naive and a bit stupid from Cameron, but could have been a hell of a lot worse to be honest.
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Infidel
12:18 Thu Sep 25
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Talk of Farage as PM is fanciful. There is absolutely no chance of that happening.
But there is a change happening in the cosy 2(3) party system, a voter rebellion against the Westminster elite.
Whether you like his politics or not Farage has done us all a service by shining a spotlight on how awful they all are.
Things are changing fast. Turnout at elections has dropped like a stone, with now a third of people or more staying at home and not voting. It used to be not more than 20%-25%.
Party membership has collapsed. When I was born (early 60s) the Conservative Party had 2.5 million members.Now they have 130,000 - and it has halved in the time Cameron has been leader. Labour and the Libs also have very few members.
The expenses scandal also exploded the myth that MPs were working hard for us. Turns out that a large number of them were milking their positions to extract as much money from us, the taxpayer, as possible.
Then there is the special case of Blair. Last year he earned over £12 million and paid almost no tax because he has channelled his revenues through tax havens in the Caribbean. This from a socialist who hiked our taxes every year when he was PM telling us it was the right thing to do to 'invest' in public services.
Plus all three main parties today could happily merge into one. They have the same policies and have reached a consensus on the way forward for the UK - high taxes, state intervention in every area of our lives and managed decline on the world stage.
The policy differences they have are trivial in the great scheme of things. Watching them have heated arguments about whether kids should have free school meals or whether the minimum wage should be raised in line with inflation or a bit more than inflation is depressing.
Aside from lunatics on the fringes, like the Greens or the BNP who would compete with Robert Mugabe for the fastest ever destruction of a country, there is no alternative philosophy.
But the public appears to have had enough of them. I certainly would not be surprised if ten years from now there was a completely different choice at election time.
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Gavros
12:19 Thu Sep 25
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Better to say one wrong word than forget the crux of your keynote speech at your annual party conference, wouldnt you say?
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Infidel
12:38 Thu Sep 25
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By the way, this 'mansion tax' of Milliband's...
Irrespective of your views on the tax itself, how much do you trust politicians in the future to confine it to houses of very high value?
Or do you think they will see it as a cash cow and drag as many houses into it as they can, bit by bit, with every budget?
Or is that a stupid question?
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,
12:48 Thu Sep 25
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I hope that Cameron remains the conservative leader. He is not and never has been a socialist, this he has in common with Tony Blair.
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Mad Dog
12:59 Thu Sep 25
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Blundering David Cameron has made a grovelling apology to the Queen after blurting out her delight at Scots rejecting independence .
Whilst i think that Cameron is a cunt, is this really all you can throw at him?
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Dave Boozle
1:02 Thu Sep 25
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Indeed Infidel. It's an anti-London proposal by an anti-London party.
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BRANDED
1:03 Thu Sep 25
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Its a gay northern lefty policy for jealous work shy immigrants.
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Mad Dog
1:03 Thu Sep 25
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And Ive just had a look at the first page. Not seen any labour bashing threads.
How many pages back should i look?
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BRANDED
1:04 Thu Sep 25
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And muslims.
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Dave Boozle
1:07 Thu Sep 25
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Actually the proposal is not stupid - London generally votes Labour, and all of the inbreds outside London have a (deep fried) chip on their shoulder about London.
Only downside is the funding for the Tories could increase significantly.
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peroni
1:09 Thu Sep 25
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As Mad Dog says - is this all you've got? What a pathetic thread. The story itself is ok, but how you've presented it is a bit silly amd childish to say the least.
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Joke Whole
1:14 Thu Sep 25
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The "mansion tax", like all other taxes, is simply a conduit used to channel money from the many, via the government, to the select few. It's not an instant transfer, but over time, the wealth goes only one way.
It will be expanded whenever the few feel the many, collectively, have more wealth than they "deserve" - probably when it becomes impossible to squeeze any more out of the country's rail commuters..
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alphaharps
1:19 Thu Sep 25
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does anyone need a £2million house? Even in London
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1:21 Thu Sep 25
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Boozle, how come we've got a conservative Mayor of London generally votes labour?
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simon.s
1:21 Thu Sep 25
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Yeah, and Ed is a much better option. If that cunt gets in, god help us.
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White Pony
1:22 Thu Sep 25
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Personally I think the Labour party should be disbanded. It has become such a mess of contradictions, it's hard to find any credibility in literally anything they say any more.
I cannot stand Cameron. He is a pathetically weak leader. But what is the alternative? If Ed Milliband ever became our Prime Minister I think I would rather move to France and live with Willtell.
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BRANDED
1:30 Thu Sep 25
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alphaharps 1:19 Thu Sep 25
£2 million pound houses are 2 a penny round here
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SLC
1:44 Thu Sep 25
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Mad Dog wrote...
Whilst i think that Cameron is a cunt, is this really all you can throw at him?
How about lying about not raising VAT? How about reducing the deficit? How about increasing spending? No top down reorganisation of the NHS? Immigration? Royal Mail sell off? Should I go on?
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